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. >>> back here at home, as the fiscal cliff standoff continues in washington, the president took his plan out of town to northern virginia, where he sat down with a middle class family to talk about the potential impact they face from the looming fiscal cliff. it's now just 25 days away. nbc's tracie potts joins us with the details from washington. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. the white house has been all over social media with this one, asking what would happen if your family had to pay another $2,200 next year in taxes? 100,000 people responded, including that northern virginia family that the president met with yesterday. they said $2,200 for them is a couple months' rent. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: the other big issue here on capitol hill, raising the debt limit. the president wants a new authority. mitch mcconnell filibustered his own bill. the senate minority leader filibustered
. >>> back here at home, as the fiscal cliff standoff continues in washington, the president took his plan out of town to northern virginia, where he sat down with a middle class family to talk about the potential impact they face from the looming fiscal cliff. it's now just 25 days away. nbc's tracie potts joins us with the details from washington. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. the white house has been all over social media with this one, asking...
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cliff negotiations in washington, d.c. nbc's mike viqueira is standing by on capitol hill. mike, i guess the big head line to come out of this other than the old christmas adage about the ifs, ands, buts, is the fact it's tied mainly to negotiation? >> yeah, if you spend any time around here, andy, two things are going to happen to you as a reporter, you're going to be insulted by john boehner, and you're going to hear him say ifs ands and buts were nuts -- would you put something on the floor that didn't have a majority of republicans to vote for? that really is a threshold question. what he's asking, would you allow a vote on allowing those tax rates for the richest mer e americans to go up, would you allow the house of representatives to vote on it? hedging response from speaker john boehner which is in itself interesting. basically what we have here, back to square one. there's no visible movement. i'm told over the course of yesterday there were no phone calls. whatever meetings or conversations took place, it went ab
cliff negotiations in washington, d.c. nbc's mike viqueira is standing by on capitol hill. mike, i guess the big head line to come out of this other than the old christmas adage about the ifs, ands, buts, is the fact it's tied mainly to negotiation? >> yeah, if you spend any time around here, andy, two things are going to happen to you as a reporter, you're going to be insulted by john boehner, and you're going to hear him say ifs ands and buts were nuts -- would you put something on the...
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. >>> back here at home, fiscal cliff negotiations in washington are still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend break. this as timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with an update. good morning to you. >> reporter: let's start with geithner. he told cnbc that instead of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of continuing the tax breaks for the wealthy. now there's been very little progress here on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many law
. >>> back here at home, fiscal cliff negotiations in washington are still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend break. this as timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with an update. good morning to you. >> reporter: let's start with geithner. he told cnbc that instead of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over...
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the fiscal cliff cloud is lingering. here it comes, i know. defending new york city. in your three-block view. the president used last night's national christmas tree light to go remind everyone the holiday season is for merry times. >> the tree has one message, it's christmastime, not disaster time. >> within their three block radius. our friday gaggle who are all bashing me, republican strategist, former adviser to chris christie, maggie, who is the defender of new york city, senior political reporter for politico, ann reid. >> morning, brooklyn. just saying. >> she is a floridian. that's why i allow you on. come on, now. managing editor of the grio.com. fiscal cliff. mike, i want to start with you. it does seem as if there are three groups of republican thought, right? you have the conservatives saying, you know, don't relent on this. upset jim demint was critical of john boehner the day before he left the senate saying i can't believe you agreed 0 to any tax relief, where the house is trying to configure something that keeps them safe and then you have the governo
the fiscal cliff cloud is lingering. here it comes, i know. defending new york city. in your three-block view. the president used last night's national christmas tree light to go remind everyone the holiday season is for merry times. >> the tree has one message, it's christmastime, not disaster time. >> within their three block radius. our friday gaggle who are all bashing me, republican strategist, former adviser to chris christie, maggie, who is the defender of new york city,...
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yesterday federal reserve chair ben bernanke chastised washington saying the fiscal cliff is already bringing damage to americans. >> why is it that small business confidence dropped so sharply? why are the markets so volatile, even though we've not nn reached the point of the fiscal cliff potentially kicking in, it's already affecting business investment and hiring decision business creating uncertainty or creating pessimism. >> washington, wake up. you're hearing from bernanke, you're hearing from the american people. just get this done. finally, the president faced foreign policy flare-ups around the world this year. its aftermath eroded confidence in obama's overall foreign policy rating. public approval for the president has bounced back to pre-benghazi levels. 52% approve, 40% disapprove. his potential pick for secretary of state, she is taking on water. u.n. ambassador susan rice's personal rating upside down. first time we've ever tested her. a third of the voters say they don't know who she is. that's amazing that only a third of voters doesn't know who she is. among those w
yesterday federal reserve chair ben bernanke chastised washington saying the fiscal cliff is already bringing damage to americans. >> why is it that small business confidence dropped so sharply? why are the markets so volatile, even though we've not nn reached the point of the fiscal cliff potentially kicking in, it's already affecting business investment and hiring decision business creating uncertainty or creating pessimism. >> washington, wake up. you're hearing from bernanke,...
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a greater understand we need to sit down and work together and avoid this fiscal cliff. >> debbie, always a pleasure. good to see you. let's bring in lori montgomery for "the washington post," democratic strategy blake zeff. we decided to focus on this today. lori, let me start with you. both house leaders today, it really seems as if talks are -- it seems they're at a standstill, but our first read team is convinced a deal is in sight. we heard from debbie wasserman schultz she heard a deal is in sight. what are you hearing? >> you can see what the framework of a deal is, and i think today you heard speaker boehner. his office tried to walk it back, but for the first time he made public remarks where he didn't rule out an increase in tax rates. you have to wonder if they don't start to move towards a resolution it to what has been the big stumbling point. >> zachary, she mentioned an increase in rates. it would seem that the magic number might be 37%. the president said 39.5% for the highest income earners. right now we're at 35%. maybe i'm oversimplifying, but the obvious compromise wou
a greater understand we need to sit down and work together and avoid this fiscal cliff. >> debbie, always a pleasure. good to see you. let's bring in lori montgomery for "the washington post," democratic strategy blake zeff. we decided to focus on this today. lori, let me start with you. both house leaders today, it really seems as if talks are -- it seems they're at a standstill, but our first read team is convinced a deal is in sight. we heard from debbie wasserman schultz she...
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. >> even as the fiscal cliff negotiations drag on in washington, wall street seems to be basically unphased. the dow jones has slipped only about 200 points since the election. why isn't wall street more on edge itself? william cohen is the author of "money and power, hold goldman sachs came to rule the world." the labor department came out with the applications for unemployment aid saying it fell sharply for the last week and stocks basically opened flat this morning as we've seen. some of that has to do more with europe than it does with washington. but what is your reasoning for why wall street hasn't displayed more of an impact from this fiscal cliff nonsense? >> thomas, what wall street hates most of all is uncertainty and it's counterintuitive, there's actually plenty of certainty now. what's going to be certain is taxes are going up. either we go off the cliff or the curb and then taxes rise for everybody and then maybe they get repealed for the middle class and others or we reach a deal and taxes go up for the wealthiest 2% and everybody else breathes a sigh of relief. there's some
. >> even as the fiscal cliff negotiations drag on in washington, wall street seems to be basically unphased. the dow jones has slipped only about 200 points since the election. why isn't wall street more on edge itself? william cohen is the author of "money and power, hold goldman sachs came to rule the world." the labor department came out with the applications for unemployment aid saying it fell sharply for the last week and stocks basically opened flat this morning as we've...
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but the question is are they speaking each other's language yet when it comes to the fiscal cliff? with just 26 days to go before the country officially goes over the edge, there are reports a growing course of republicans are pressuring house leaders to cave on tax hikes for the wealthy, this following president obama and speaker boehner's first phone
but the question is are they speaking each other's language yet when it comes to the fiscal cliff? with just 26 days to go before the country officially goes over the edge, there are reports a growing course of republicans are pressuring house leaders to cave on tax hikes for the wealthy, this following president obama and speaker boehner's first phone
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you talk about the fiscal cliff. rg3's knee, that's the story in washington today. redskins fans holding their breath as griffin was helped off the field. backup, curt cousins. 36 seconds left. connecting with pierre garcon for the touchdown. cousins was running the two-point conversion, we're headed to overtime. headed for 28. just over 1:00 gone punting to richard crawford. he gets to the 10 yard line. sprints up the sideline. finally run down the field after a 64 yard run sets up a 34 yard field goal to try to win it. it's good! redskins come back 31-28. they move to 7-6. >> after the game of course everyone wants to know how's his knee doing? mri came back negative for a torn acl. the diagnosis of sprained right knee. >> you're a doctor too in addition to a lot of guys. >> renaissance man. >> 245es very good. >>> the giengts needing a win over the saints to hold onto the nfc east lead. first quarter giants down a touchdown. this is david wilson. slightly fast. the rookie from virginia tech finds a little daylight. gone. kicker, come on, harley. he tried. well, w
you talk about the fiscal cliff. rg3's knee, that's the story in washington today. redskins fans holding their breath as griffin was helped off the field. backup, curt cousins. 36 seconds left. connecting with pierre garcon for the touchdown. cousins was running the two-point conversion, we're headed to overtime. headed for 28. just over 1:00 gone punting to richard crawford. he gets to the 10 yard line. sprints up the sideline. finally run down the field after a 64 yard run sets up a 34 yard...
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just looking on my twitter feed here, "washington post"/abc poll of handling of fiscal cliff negotiations, obama, 47% approve, 46% disapprove. boehner, 24% approve. 54% disapprove. i would say, the republican party continues to have a branding problem. >> there is. >> or a disintegrating problem in washington. >> it is a branding problem that was born of chaos in the primary process that continues. there is a great "politico" article that actually talks about the republican problem with branding. and talks about -- >> it's a great piece. >> have you seen this? >> yeah. >> the republican party has a branding problem. these are researchers that say -- we asked 22, 23 different topics, whether americans related more to the democratic party or the republican party. 22 of the 23, they appeal more to democrats. >> yeah. >> it is a generalized, massive branding problem over what's happened nationally over the past year. >> except in the south. >> the piece, in part, points out that unlike people who sit around here, most people, normal people out there in america react emotionally to politics wh
just looking on my twitter feed here, "washington post"/abc poll of handling of fiscal cliff negotiations, obama, 47% approve, 46% disapprove. boehner, 24% approve. 54% disapprove. i would say, the republican party continues to have a branding problem. >> there is. >> or a disintegrating problem in washington. >> it is a branding problem that was born of chaos in the primary process that continues. there is a great "politico" article that actually talks...
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. >>> finally, there may be gridlock in washington over the fiscal cliff but members of parliament in the ukraine spent the first two days of the parliamentary session literally fistfighting over the election of parliamentary officials. this was the scene from today. anyway, yesterday's session was suspended due to a similar brawl with one man having his ear torn. the election did wind up happening today. ukrainian law dictate that is the police cannot intervene in parliamentary fights. the members can't be punished for what they do in them. i guess that explains that. >>> up next, chris christie versus hillary clinton in '26? wishful thinking for all of us political junkies. what a match-up that would be. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. anncr: some politicians seem to think medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors w
. >>> finally, there may be gridlock in washington over the fiscal cliff but members of parliament in the ukraine spent the first two days of the parliamentary session literally fistfighting over the election of parliamentary officials. this was the scene from today. anyway, yesterday's session was suspended due to a similar brawl with one man having his ear torn. the election did wind up happening today. ukrainian law dictate that is the police cannot intervene in parliamentary...
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on lawmakers as they try to hammer out a deal on the fiscal cliff before the holiday recess. >>> new details on a navy s.e.a.l. who died during a daring mission in afghanistan. >>> plus, a fireball over texas, and more dogs behind the wheel. good morning, even. i'm lynn berry. there is a renewed sense urgency in washington as house members returned to town today with just 21 days left to avert that so-called fiscal cliff, and if the framework for an agreement isn't reached by the end of the week, lawmakers could be spending christmas in d.c. tracie potts has those good morning. >>> the president sitting down with john boehner, the staff sitting behind closed door, but today republican members come back to capitol hill and boehner may have a problem. >> all these members are going to come back to town, and they're going to want to play a role in these negotiations. >> the house is back today. that means conservative republicans who insist the wealthy keep this year's tax breaks could put the squeeze on their own party. that's the one thing president obama refuses to bend on. otherwise
on lawmakers as they try to hammer out a deal on the fiscal cliff before the holiday recess. >>> new details on a navy s.e.a.l. who died during a daring mission in afghanistan. >>> plus, a fireball over texas, and more dogs behind the wheel. good morning, even. i'm lynn berry. there is a renewed sense urgency in washington as house members returned to town today with just 21 days left to avert that so-called fiscal cliff, and if the framework for an agreement isn't reached by...
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at the possibility or the prospect of sort of a p perpetual fiscal cliff and using the debt ceiling to force concessions. they, you know, used cliche they kicked the can down the road to the super committee and that blew up and now this and talk of a two-prong solution and then dealing with entitlements next year. it does seem like we just keep making, you know, small incremental decisions and then putting off somethingç bigger r six months, a year, 18 months. when will the insanity stop on this? >> yeah. i mean, the thing is -- >> 300 calories! >> stop the insanity! >> that was -- that was susan powter. i knew we talked about it before the show and didn't know we would play it. when will we listen and stop the insanity? feel free to answer. >> yeah. look. you know, it's a real dynamic in place where it takes the horrible things to happen, a risk of a recession, of a debt ceiling, you know, defaulting on u.s. debt, it takes the really dramatic things to force action but it gets back to the issue of where are the power levers and the forcing mechanisms to make the government deal with
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olay pro-x. >>> now to the fight in washington over the fiscal cliff if lawmakers do not make a deal before january, the country will face a mixed bag of tax hikes and drastic spending cuts that could send the economy reeling. today on msnbc's weeks with alex witt, elijah cummings from maryland said he is getting more hopeful. >> three days ago i would have said that the chances of something being worked out were at best 20%. i feel a little bit more comfortable believing that something is going to be worked out. and give it about a 70% chance. the fact that boehner and the president have pretty much gotten to a point where they'll be sitting down, trying to work this out as opposed to a lot of cooks in the kitchen, i think that's helpful. >> with me now, joe nadler, democrat from new york. congressman, good saturday afternoon to you. thanks for coming. >> good afternoon. >> you just heard your colleague from maryland saying 70% chance that a deal gets done. what say you? >> i don't know. i just hope that if a deal is done, it is a reasonable deal. i won't vote for any deal that cuts
olay pro-x. >>> now to the fight in washington over the fiscal cliff if lawmakers do not make a deal before january, the country will face a mixed bag of tax hikes and drastic spending cuts that could send the economy reeling. today on msnbc's weeks with alex witt, elijah cummings from maryland said he is getting more hopeful. >> three days ago i would have said that the chances of something being worked out were at best 20%. i feel a little bit more comfortable believing that...
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the back and forth fiscal cliff on capitol hill has sounded more like a washington stage production of war of the world's. the myan calendar may have been correct after all. right on time, congressional republicans are crafting a doomsday scenario for the fiscal cliff. it would allow a vote on extending only the bush middle class tax cuts and nothing elseings, effectively slamming the ball into the president's court for a new year's showdown on the debt ceiling. no compromise on extending unemployment or altering the tax code for those loopholes or raising fed reral revenues. politicians are allowed to thrive off of our democratic life blood. what is missing in light of this january 1st manufactured deadline? any talk of the very real physical foibles in our country. we have chosen to ignore the ways policies have created a governor for and by the entity. when republicans or democrats asked for top earners to pay their fair share, both sides are still ignoring it sources of the fiscal crisis. when so many americans do not make a living wage, the economy cannot recover nor can our budge
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cou you couldn't smoke until 5:00 at your desk. >> "usa today" , sue davis, all your fiscal cliff news. >> always knows the hill as well as anybody. that's it for this edition. tomorrow on the show, all the results from our first post-election nbc/"wall street journal" poll. coming up next, chris jansing. bye-bye. with the simmons family. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen seventy six a month! okay, come with me -- we're gonna save you money. with straight talk at walmart, you get unlimited talk, text and data for only $45 a month per phone. would we get the same coverage? same coverage on america's best networks. you saved $146.76 by switching to straight talk. awesome! now you can afford to share your allowance with me. get the season's hottest smartphones like the samsung galaxy s2 and get straight talk with unlimited data for just $45 a month -- from america's gift headquarters. walmart. ♪ ♪ boo! i am the ghost of meals past. when you don't use new pam, this is what you get. residue. [ female announcer ] bargain brand cooking spray leaves annoying residue. that's
cou you couldn't smoke until 5:00 at your desk. >> "usa today" , sue davis, all your fiscal cliff news. >> always knows the hill as well as anybody. that's it for this edition. tomorrow on the show, all the results from our first post-election nbc/"wall street journal" poll. coming up next, chris jansing. bye-bye. with the simmons family. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen seventy six a month! okay, come with me -- we're gonna save you money. with...
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i think we're getting somewhere with this fiscal cliff problem. number one, smart conservatives now say the republicans would face hell if they let this country go over the fiscal cliff. just to protect the top 2%.ç better to take the hit now, they argued, than in january with the world economy in turmoil and second recession coming. number two, john boehner, the speaker is claiming he's met obama's demand for higher taxes for the rich. that's good. he agreed in principle the rich must pay more. number three, there's talk for the republican leaders that they could vote to continue the tax cuts for the 98% now and therefore avoid the fiscal cliff and put off for now the top 2%. and the question then, let the debt ceiling not take effect. a tax cut delayed i argue is a tax cut avoided. joining me with the republican defense highly tauted fan of the eagles, ed rendell and alex wagner of msnbc's "now." governor, i want you to read what's going on here. first speaker boehner defended the gop's tax proposal saying it does take a bite out of the rich b
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in firms of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the farm bill which would include the price of milk and food stamps on a broader level. at what point do these become sticking points in the negotiation? >> reporter: they're going to become sticking points and probably before the end of the year, because remember there are a couple of things going on. if the president gets a deal on rates, republicans are going to be less inclined to go along with some of the other things, like extended unemployment insurance and some sort of extension perhaps in different form of the payroll tax cut. but also to avoid the sequestration, the congress has got to find some way to have cuts in the interim. if they kick the can down the road they have to have month by month cuts. the farm bill, talking $10 billion a month to in effect buy off the sequestration while they negotiate, the farm bill if you take the senate bill, $23 billion in subsidies cut overall, $4 billion as mentioned fro
in firms of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the farm bill which would include the price of milk and food stamps on a broader level. at what point do these become sticking points in the negotiation? >> reporter: they're going to become sticking points and probably before the end of the year, because remember there are a couple of things going on. if the...
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people because it's we the people that can demand the politicians and congress resolve this fiscal cliff, but resolve it in a way that makes our country stronger. that's why the president's come here to metro detroit. we're the home for u.s. manufacturing. also we're the home for the american worker. we need to resolve our fiscal problems, but resolve them in a way that continues to investigation in training and educating our workers and advanced manufacturing and also providing the revenue that we need to still provide health care to our seniors and social security to those who depend on it. >> sir, let's talk about getting to the sensible center here. because as the politico poll that i referenced earlier off the top of the show indicates, 59% oppose significant cuts to defense but 75% favor across the board spending cuts. so where are you and other colleagues willing to start with those spending cuts? i mean, what are democrats willing to put on the table specifically? >> well, first of all, i've spoken to many republicans in the house. i'm one of the most liberal democratic members o
people because it's we the people that can demand the politicians and congress resolve this fiscal cliff, but resolve it in a way that makes our country stronger. that's why the president's come here to metro detroit. we're the home for u.s. manufacturing. also we're the home for the american worker. we need to resolve our fiscal problems, but resolve them in a way that continues to investigation in training and educating our workers and advanced manufacturing and also providing the revenue...
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cliff. and with 12 days to christmas, boehner has had his 12 drummers drumming to the beat of spending is the problem. boehner started the day with a chart prepared by drummer boy paul ryan and after taking the serious step of launching a twitter hash tag, he declared that the president is not serious about the debt. >> here we are at the 11th hour and the president still isn't serious about dealing with this issue right here. it's this issue, spending. >> are you feeling the christmas spirit yet? well, despite the strife, the president's kept his holiday cheer. >> how are you feeling about a deal? optimistic? >> it's a work in progress. >> speaker boehner says he's waiting to hear more from you, sir. >> merry christmas. >> we sure hope so, mr. president. let's see what can be done about it. let's bring in our panel here in new york. ken vogel, chief investigative reporter for politico and william cohen author of "money and power." and nbc's mike viqueira. mike, you are there on the hill for
cliff. and with 12 days to christmas, boehner has had his 12 drummers drumming to the beat of spending is the problem. boehner started the day with a chart prepared by drummer boy paul ryan and after taking the serious step of launching a twitter hash tag, he declared that the president is not serious about the debt. >> here we are at the 11th hour and the president still isn't serious about dealing with this issue right here. it's this issue, spending. >> are you feeling the...
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it's my fiscal cliff helmet down here in washington. >> oh, understood. >> i love it. let's go through the list. not surprising who is number one? >> a re-elected barack obama back at number one. two years ago we had hu jintao so it is not automatic the president is at the top but with a kind of mini mandate, four more years and the defacto leader of the free world it is a pretty easy selection of number one. >> angela merkel number two. easy to understand. >> europe goes through germany and germany goes through merkel. >> let's talk about vladimir putin coming in at number three. >> yes. he has been on the list even when he wasn't president because we all know who was still running the show then. he's back up there with a bullet. he's been as high as two on this list. here is somebody who has a u.n. security council permanency, controls a huge oil and gas reserve, has a nuclear tipped army and wields his power very effectively. >> and loves to show his muscles. many times as possible. >> powerful in many ways. that's right. >> of late bill gates has been the rodney da
it's my fiscal cliff helmet down here in washington. >> oh, understood. >> i love it. let's go through the list. not surprising who is number one? >> a re-elected barack obama back at number one. two years ago we had hu jintao so it is not automatic the president is at the top but with a kind of mini mandate, four more years and the defacto leader of the free world it is a pretty easy selection of number one. >> angela merkel number two. easy to understand. >>...
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have left to figure out what to do about the so-called fiscal cliff. the latest on the negotiations and ha it means for both sides political capital. that's straight ahead. >>> plus washington state's same-sex marriage law took effect at midnight and couples tied the knot just as soon as they could we'll talk about what might happen when the supreme court weighs in. >>> plus, all indications are, that congress is gearing up for a revamping of the nation's immigration laws. what that will mean for the gop and its right wing. first, though, with just over three weeks left to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. lawmakers from both sides hit the sunday shows to late out the latest battle lines in the fight. on "meet the press," the number three house republican reiterated that any new revenues should come from closing loopholes, not raising tax rates. >> the president wants the rates to go up, that doesn't solve the problem. if the president is asking for higher rates, he's asking for more revenue. most economists agree the best way to get that is through cl
have left to figure out what to do about the so-called fiscal cliff. the latest on the negotiations and ha it means for both sides political capital. that's straight ahead. >>> plus washington state's same-sex marriage law took effect at midnight and couples tied the knot just as soon as they could we'll talk about what might happen when the supreme court weighs in. >>> plus, all indications are, that congress is gearing up for a revamping of the nation's immigration laws....
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. >>> coming up next with just 24 days to go until the fiscal cliff deadline, speaker john boehner wants negotiations to be just between him and the president. will this be washington's last hope? i'm getting a deal done. keep it here on "morning joe." [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a month. open enrollment ends december 7th. so call today or visit your local walgreens. sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every da
. >>> coming up next with just 24 days to go until the fiscal cliff deadline, speaker john boehner wants negotiations to be just between him and the president. will this be washington's last hope? i'm getting a deal done. keep it here on "morning joe." [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you...
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. >>> new today, leaders from both sides agreeing the best option is to avoid the fiscal cliff. they can't agree on which path to take to get there. >>> i don't think republicans or americans want to raise any taxes just to continue this spending in washington. they want a more efficient and more accountable. what we are saying is we need to do what ronald reagan did with tip o'neill, show the leadership to get in the room. same as bill clinton did with newt gingrich. get in the room and make the changes that are needed. >> the president wants to solve the problem. it's what he said in the campaign. it's what he's saying now. we cannot lurch from one crisis to the other. think of all the times tea party republicans and speaker boehner threatened to shut down the government over the debt ceiling. listen, if we are going to have this certainty for businesses to invest and know new jobs are being created we have to get this behind us. >> joining me now, dana millbank and kristina. it's great to have you both here. bob corker said the idea of raising taxes on the top 2% has merit. t
. >>> new today, leaders from both sides agreeing the best option is to avoid the fiscal cliff. they can't agree on which path to take to get there. >>> i don't think republicans or americans want to raise any taxes just to continue this spending in washington. they want a more efficient and more accountable. what we are saying is we need to do what ronald reagan did with tip o'neill, show the leadership to get in the room. same as bill clinton did with newt gingrich. get in...
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. >> the fiscal cliff which the republicans voted for and the 2%. but we'll get there. best-selling author jon meacham is still with us. along with "the washington post's" david ignatius in washington and former director of the office for budget, vice chairman of global banking at citibank and adjunct -- good lord, seriously. >> you've got more titles than mark mckinnon. we've got peter orzsag. >> from "time" rana faroohar is here. >> the frito-lay. >> so peter, we have a lot to talk about. first of all, explain what's going on. you see the two sides lobbying, these rhetorical missiles past these other while john boehner and president obama are calmly, quietly, privately speaking. what's going on? is that for the base? who is that far? >> well, yeah. first, look, if we had a deal on december 10th, both bases would say you're nuts, you gave too much. it's not surprising that it hasn't come together. i think the big concern at this point is you can see a deal coming together on taxes. >> on taxes, right. >> some increase in marginal tax rates, not to 39.6%. some reduction
. >> the fiscal cliff which the republicans voted for and the 2%. but we'll get there. best-selling author jon meacham is still with us. along with "the washington post's" david ignatius in washington and former director of the office for budget, vice chairman of global banking at citibank and adjunct -- good lord, seriously. >> you've got more titles than mark mckinnon. we've got peter orzsag. >> from "time" rana faroohar is here. >> the frito-lay....